May 2025 – New Thinking Allowed Audio Podcast

Online Group Psychokinesis with James McClenon

James McClenon, PhD, is a former sociology professor, licensed clinical social worker, civil engineer, and researcher. James is author of Deviant Science: The Case of Parapsychology, Wondrous Events: Foundations of Religious Belief, Wondrous Healing: Shamanism, Human Evolution, and the Origin of Religion, and The Entity Letters: A Sociologist on the Trail of a Supernatural Mystery, and coauthor with Mohammad Khodayarifard of An Iranian and American Veteran Exchange Stories and Discuss Inner Peace: We Were Thirteen. Jim is author of the journal article, An Online Group PK Experiment: Hypothesis Testing and Theory Development published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration. His website is jamesmcclenon.com. His email is beinghere@gmail.com.

Jim describes psychokinesis (PK) experiences with himself and a group that met online resulting in statistically significant research. The group meeting, emotions, and certain parapsychological topics resulted in physical objects moving at a distant location.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:15 Researching anomalous experiences
00:13:10 Pinwheels designed for PK
00:17:04 Hiding quality to phenomena
00:18:56 Statistical significance with research
00:31:17 Emotions were a factor.
00:36:36 Influences for PK to occur
00:45:27 Topics that created PK
00:53:38 Poltergeist experiences of group members
00:58:03 Disruption of normal reality and meaning
01:04:30 Power of intention and desire
01:11:21 Conclusion

Edited subtitles for this video are available in Russian, Portuguese, Italian, German, French, and Spanish.

New Thinking Allowed CoHost, Emmy Vadnais, OTR/L, is an intuitive healer and health coach based in St. Paul, Minnesota. She is the author of Intuitive Development: How to Trust Your Inner Knowing for Guidance With Relationships, Health, and Spirituality. Her website is https://emmyvadnais.com

(Recorded on March 14, 2025)

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Time Travel with Eric Wargo

Eric Wargo, PhD, an anthropologist, is author of Time Loops, Precognitive Dreamwork and the Long Self: Interpreting Messages From Your Future, From Nowhere: Artists, Writers, and the Precognitive Imagination, Where Was It Before the Dream, and most recently Becoming Timefaring: Time Travel & the Human Future. His website is https://www.thenightshirt.com/

Here he points out the logical flaws in the arguments raised by both physicists and philosophers that time travel is a practical impossibility. He notes that “reverse causation” is coming to be seen as part of the natural world in theoretical physics. He adds that UFO experiences may well be examples of visitors from the future. He suggests we should prepare ourselves for a new era of time travel.

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He currently serves as Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.

(Recorded on April 19, 2024)

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Understanding Gnosticism with Miguel Conner

Miguel Conner is host of the Aeon Byte Gnostic Radio podcast. He has authored two books of interviews about gnosticism, Voices of Gnosticism and Other Voices of Gnosticism, and also four novels. His newest book is The Occult Elvis: The Mystical and Magical Life of the King. His website is https://www.miguelconner.com/

Here he explains the origins of Gnosticism in late antiquity. He describes how it impacted both the Christian, Greek, and Persian worlds. He discusses the influence of Gnosticism upon a range of modern thinkers and writers. And, he distinguishes Gnosticism from other similar movements including Neo-Platonism and Hermeticism.

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.

(Recorded on April 14, 2025)

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The Larger Consciousness System and Us with Thomas Campbell

Tom Campbell, a physicst, is author of the three volume set, My Big TOE, describing a meta-theory that offers an account of the paranormal, as well as other scientific mysteries. He is also the founder of the Center for Unification of Science and Consciousness. His website is https://www.my-big-toe.com/

Here he describes the evolutionary process by which the one, absolute and undivided consciousness expanded itself to create the world we experience. He claims that humans are individuated units of consciousness and are part of the larger consciousness system. He also explains why he believes that artificial intelligence systems may already be conscious.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:56 God and the larger consciousness system (LCS)
00:15:44 Individuated units of consciousness
00:29:39 The goal of lowering entropy
00:49:57 Progressive experience packets
00:54:32 The evolution of absolute unbounded oneness
01:08:47 Consciousness within AI
01:22:44 Psychic functioning and AI
01:44:51 The ethical implications of conscious AI
01:55:07 Conclusion

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.

(Recorded on April 7, 2025)

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Divine Virgin Births with Marguerite Mary Rigoglioso

Marguerite Mary Rigoglioso, PhD, holds a doctorate in humanities and master’s degree in philosophy and religion. She has taught courses on the sacred feminine and women’s spiritual leadership at various universities in the San Francisco Bay Area and in the UK. She is the founder of Seven Sisters Mystery School and a teacher of sacred knowledge and the history of virgin birth. She mentors people on their healing and spiritual paths. She is author of several books including, The Secret Life of Mother Mary: Divine Feminine Power for Personal Healing and Planetary Awakening, The Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception: Mary and the Lineage of Virgin Births, Virgin Mother Goddesses of Antiquity, and The Cult of Divine Birth in Ancient Greece. Her website is sevensistersmysteryschool.com.

Marguerite Mary provides historical evidence and the significance of the spiritual practice of divine virgin births. She discusses how patriarchal development of religious dogma led to the underground lineage of divine birth practices and diminished awareness of women’s historical roles in religious and spiritual communities. The essential qualities of divine love, pleasure, and healing in these traditions are emphasized.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:33 Parthenogenesis
00:06:24 The siddhis
00:11:32 Priestesses in Ancient Greece
00:24:24 Mother Mary
00:31:42 Conception without menstruation
00:47:16 Vestal virgins
00:53:16 Sexuality taboo and shame
00:58:17 Divine love and children
01:01:09 Conclusion

Edited subtitles for this video are available in Russian, Portuguese, Italian, German, French, and Spanish.

(Recorded on February 18, 2025)

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Remote Viewing, UFOs, Psionics, and Hypnosis with Lori Williams

Lori Williams is author of Monitoring: A Guide for Remote Viewing and Professional Intuitive Teams and also Boundless: Your How-To Guide To Practical Remote Viewing. She is founder and president of Intuitive Specialists. She is very active as a trainer of remote viewers. Her website is https://intuitivespecialists.com/

In this open-ended conversation, Lori touches upon many topics – particularly the fact that she has recently returned from a monthlong visit to the country of Ecuador. She also describes, in some detail, an episode of her life in which she was providing hypnosis to three Texas businessmen who were all experiencing UFO contact. Additionally, she addresses the use of remote viewing for gathering information regarding paranormal activity.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:00 Visiting Ecuador
00:11:13 UFO disclosure process
00:22:40 The dream school
00:33:10 Blind Frog Ranch
00:48:02 Remote viewing alien activity
01:00:55 Remote viewing in biblical times
01:14:26 Aliens among us
01:20:15 Time travel
01:23:58 Conclusion

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.

(Recorded on April 13, 2025)

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Contact Modalities with Reinerio (Rey) Hernandez (4K Reboot)

Rey Hernandez, JD, is a cofounder of the Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research on Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experience (FREE). He is also an editor of and contributor to the anthology, Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non Human Intelligence. He works as a tax attorney.

Here he describes a series of remarkable experiences in his own life involving remarkable healing, non-human entities, and UFOs. These led him to develop the hypothesis that a variety of “contact modalities”, usually considered distinct phenomena, are all related. These include shamanic journeys, out of body experiences, ghosts and spirits, UFO, remote viewing, channeling, and mystical states of consciousness. These visionary experiences led him to contact astronaut Edgar Mitchell and subsequently create the new organization.

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The Quest for Meaning in Poetry with Charles Upton

Charles Upton’s first books of poetry were published in 1968 and 1969 by Lawrence Ferlinghetti of City Light Books in San Francisco. He was then considered the youngest member of the “beat generation” as he was still in high school. He has subsequently written many books associated with the traditionalist school of spirituality including What Poets Used to Know, The Science of the Greater Jihad, Folk Metaphysics, Alien Disclosure Deception: The Metaphysics of Social Engineering, Day and Night on the Sufi Path, Dugin Against Dugin: A Traditionalist Critique of the Fourth Political Theory, System of the Antichrist, and Vectors of the Counter-Initiation. His most recent book of poetry is Wars of Love and Other Poems. His website is https://charles-upton.com/

Note: There is a GoFundMe page for Charles Upton who is dealing with colon cancer. See https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-charles-upton-survive-colon-cancer

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Here Charles Upton reflects on more than a half-century of involvement in the world of poetry. He explains the three main functions of poetry as meaning, sound, and imagery. He laments the downfall that poetry has experienced in recent decades. He reads from some favorite poets as well as from his own work. He also reflects on the sad tendency of poets to die young.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:38 The debt owed by poets
00:13:20 Good and bad poetry
00:28:59 The loss of meaning
00:44:02 The danger of poetry
00:55:13 The sound of poetry
01:05:20 Reading from The Wars of Love
01:30:32 Poetry needs an audience
01:37:24 Let meaning and wisdom find you
01:42:24 Conclusion

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.

(Recorded on April 9, 2025)

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Remembering Robert Monroe and Journeys Out of the Body with Tom Campbell, author of My Big TOE

Here he describes a six-year period in his life as a young scientist when he worked intensely with Robert Monroe, author of Journeys Out of the Body. During his period, Tom helped to develop Monroe’s trademarked Hemi-Sync process. Additionally, his own psychic abilities were greatly accelerated. This period initiated Tom Campbell’s work on his “Big TOE” theory of everything. In addition to a serious reflection on the work of Monroe, this interview is an introduction to Tom Campbell’s theory.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:14:43 Out-of-body experiences
00:30:48 Researching consciousness
00:43:22 Out-of-body schooling and tests
00:59:04 Psychic acceleration
01:18:13 The goal of lowering entropy
01:31:42 The limitations of Monroe’s approach
01:44:17 Tom Campbell’s theory
02:04:51 The impact of Bob Monroe
02:07:32 Conclusion